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How to Start a Construction Business with $18: Ray Wells' 70% Close Rate Strategy
Ray Wells , owner of MAN ANT SERVICES in Douglasville, Georgia, built his construction and handyman services on hard work, faith, and a relentless focus on growth. To Ray, there’s no such thing as a loss—only valuable lessons to learn from. In this episode, we’ll hear about his journey, the importance of family, and how staying focused and having faith has helped him overcome every challenge.

About the Guest
Ray Wells
Owner of MAN ANT SERVICES
Ray Wells is the founder and owner of MAN ANT Services, a highly regarded construction and handyman services company based in Powder Springs, Georgia. Originally from Omaha, Nebraska, Ray learned construction from his father-in-law and earned multiple certifications including heavy equipment operation (Levels 1 & 2), crane operation, and commercial real estate licensing. After dropping over 24 structures in his first year as a demolition operator and working in utility locating for several years, Ray took a leap of faith in May 2018 to start his own business with just $18 in his pocket, a push lawnmower, and a $400 trailer. Today, MAN ANT Services has grown into a thriving full-service construction company known for exceptional customer service, a 70% estimate close rate, and the ability to handle virtually any outdoor construction project.
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Company: MAN ANT Services
Location: Powder Springs, Georgia (Greater Atlanta Area)
Services: Fencing, Concrete Work, Decks, Patios, Pergolas, Gazebos, Garden Beds, Full Turnkey Construction
Company Overview
MAN ANT Services provides comprehensive construction and handyman services throughout the Greater Atlanta area, specializing in outdoor projects and custom solutions for homeowners.
Services
- Privacy fence installation and customization
- Concrete work and driveway expansion
- Deck building, expansion, and staining
- Patio and pergola construction
- Gazebo installation
- Garden bed design and maintenance
- Routine property maintenance
- Full turnkey home building capabilities through trusted subcontractor network
Core Mission
Delivering exceptional customer service with transparent, consistent pricing regardless of customer demographics, backed by comprehensive contracts and a personal commitment to answering client calls and providing in-person estimates.
Business Model
Owner-operated with selective crew expansion, focusing on high-quality craftsmanship, customer relationships, and maintaining brand integrity through direct oversight. Revenue has reached $70,000+ per month during peak periods.
Episode Summary
Ray Wells , owner of MAN ANT SERVICES in Douglasville, Georgia, built his construction and handyman services on hard work, faith, and a relentless focus on growth. To Ray, there’s no such thing as a loss—only valuable lessons to learn from. In this episode, we’ll hear about his journey, the importance of family, and how staying focused and having faith has helped him overcome every challenge.
On Learning
"If I'm doing something, I got to be learning something... I always looked at jobs like I'm getting paid to learn."
On Entrepreneurship
"You'll work twice as hard for yourself than you ever work for somebody else."
On Customer Service
"Everybody could build a fence, a lot of people could lay a driveway, build a patio, redo your deck, but what makes me specific is my customer service."
On Resilience
"I've probably failed as many times as anybody's never started, and I guarantee I failed 30 times more than that."
On Setbacks
"Don't be scared to make mistakes... There's never a loss, it's only a lesson. When I win, I never really learned that much, kind of little egotistical... but when I'm humbled and I took an L, it was a lesson and I appreciate learning."
Getting Started
- Take the leap when you feel it in your gut - Don't wait for perfect conditions
- Start with whatever you have - Ray began with $18, a lawnmower, and a $400 trailer
- Pursue education consistently - Ray gets new certifications every 2 years
- Door-to-door sales still work - Personal connection builds trust and initial customer base
- Have a backup income stream initially - Ray's Friday lawnmowing provided consistent cash flow
Building Customer Relationships
- Answer your phone - In construction, accessibility is a massive differentiator
- Give personal estimates - Ray's 70% close rate comes from showing up himself
- Maintain consistent pricing - Never price discriminate; build trust through fairness
- Create comprehensive contracts - Invest in legal review of your 9-page protection
- Explain everything upfront - Full disclosure about warranties, limitations, and processes
Operational Excellence
- Focus on what you do best - Ray specializes in wood structures and concrete
- Build a trusted subcontractor network - Enables full turnkey solutions without overhead
- Use proper technology for payments - Avoid PayPal for services; use direct bank transfers
- Invest in contract management tools - Jotform for professional documentation
- Schedule time off deliberately - Entrepreneurs must actively plan breaks or they won't happen
Managing Growth and Challenges
- Maintain quality control personally - Ray learned painful lessons from delegating too much
- View failures as lessons, not losses - Every setback teaches something valuable
- Stay focused during slow periods - Have faith that what's yours will come
- Be transparent about capabilities - Ray's customer service trumps technical skills as differentiator
- Consider teaching as revenue stream - MAN ANT Academy creates income while developing talent pipeline
Scaling Strategy
- Know when to expand and contract - Ray scaled to three trucks then back to owner-operator model
- Validate all crew members thoroughly - Employee theft and brand damage are real risks
- Create systems before scaling - Training academy ensures consistent quality
- Plan long-term exit strategy - Land development and franchising provide wealth-building path
- Keep family succession in mind - Building something to pass to next generation
Faith and Mindset
- Surround yourself with winners - Your network determines your trajectory
- Maintain work-life balance awareness - Ray prioritized father's care despite business impact
- Find or refind your faith - Spiritual foundation provides resilience during challenges
- Remember your "why" - Family motivation sustained Ray through toughest times
- Stay humble - Losses teach more than wins; embrace the learning
From Adversity to Achievement
Ray's journey from foster care and juvenile detention to successful business owner demonstrates how past struggles can fuel future success when combined with determination, faith, and willingness to learn.
Family as Ultimate Motivation
The episode powerfully illustrates how caring for his father with dementia while building a business revealed Ray's true priorities and character, showing that personal and professional success aren't mutually exclusive.
Customer Service as Competitive Moat
In a commoditized industry where many can install fences or pour concrete, Ray's 70% close rate proves that exceptional service, accessibility, and pricing integrity create sustainable competitive advantages.
Learning as Lifestyle
Ray's commitment to pursuing new certifications and education every two years demonstrates how continuous learning becomes a differentiator in any industry and keeps entrepreneurs ahead of competition.
Resilience Through Faith
The discussion reveals how spiritual foundation and faith community provide essential support systems for entrepreneurs facing inevitable business challenges and personal hardships.
Strategic Scaling vs Growth at All Costs
Ray's experience scaling to three trucks then contracting back to owner-operator model offers valuable lessons about quality control, brand protection, and sustainable growth strategies.
Creating Multiple Revenue Streams
From construction services to Airbnbs to MAN ANT Academy, Ray demonstrates how entrepreneurs can diversify income while staying within their core competencies and passion areas.
Legacy Building Through Teaching
The MAN ANT Academy concept shows how successful entrepreneurs can create lasting impact by teaching next generation while generating revenue and developing talent pipeline.
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